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		<title>By: Holly</title>
		<link>http://honestholly.com/disclaimer-what-to-expect-at-a-marketing-event/#comment-3368</link>
		<dc:creator>Holly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 16:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Lock Chee, 
Thank you so much for sharing your experiences with this. It is horrible what people will do for money. The conference attendees are there seeking real guidance - not seeking to waste all their money on something that is not as promised. I hope you can get your money back on the other thing..that is horrible. I wish I could help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Lock Chee,<br />
Thank you so much for sharing your experiences with this. It is horrible what people will do for money. The conference attendees are there seeking real guidance &#8211; not seeking to waste all their money on something that is not as promised. I hope you can get your money back on the other thing..that is horrible. I wish I could help.</p>
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		<title>By: Lock Chee Hoong</title>
		<link>http://honestholly.com/disclaimer-what-to-expect-at-a-marketing-event/#comment-3366</link>
		<dc:creator>Lock Chee Hoong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 15:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I attended 1 global internet summit in 2009 and along with a group of Malaysians, we sign up for 1 course. This course lasts for a year and within months, it folded. It was the most expensive course at the event RM12k which is like USD3.7k

The Australian company promised lots of things and made the best sales pitch of the event. 

When they returned to Sydney, they just chose to under-deliver their promises, and when things got hot and their students in Australia commented on them in Facebook, the management even had the gal to call them up and threaten them with lawsuits...how ridiculous can that be?

The company over expanded and in a few months time, they lost 5.5 million and had to be sold to another company, When we emailed them about getting the refund which was written in the contract, they just told us to refer to the new owner (based all the way in Australia).
They did not inform us of their sale, and for the past few months whenever we joined their weekly webinars, the host was never there.

If you go to Facebook and look at The Geekversity Issues Group...you will know what I mean....Some of the locals there were charged AUD18k to 21k...

These people ought to be hanged in public!

I saw (as you mentioned) many people with over-eager ambition to take up everything the speakers presented during the Kuala Lumpur GIS 2009. One even signed up for SIX COURSES!!! And he not a computer-savy person.

Another case of such scam involving an eBay guru.
He promised that we can buy and sell properties in ebay.
When my friend signed up and then turned up at the workshop, the &quot;guru&quot; told them they need to buy a special software that costs USD5k...
What happened was, they did not manage to buy or sell US properties because of one simple rule - NO SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER.
Everyone else - in their haste to make money - forget that basic, simple fact. 
SO my friend ended up losing lost of money , around USD6k.

These so-called gurus can be real mean and inconsiderate people. they are willing to con everybody (i think even their own parents) if they get the chance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I attended 1 global internet summit in 2009 and along with a group of Malaysians, we sign up for 1 course. This course lasts for a year and within months, it folded. It was the most expensive course at the event RM12k which is like USD3.7k</p>
<p>The Australian company promised lots of things and made the best sales pitch of the event. </p>
<p>When they returned to Sydney, they just chose to under-deliver their promises, and when things got hot and their students in Australia commented on them in Facebook, the management even had the gal to call them up and threaten them with lawsuits&#8230;how ridiculous can that be?</p>
<p>The company over expanded and in a few months time, they lost 5.5 million and had to be sold to another company, When we emailed them about getting the refund which was written in the contract, they just told us to refer to the new owner (based all the way in Australia).<br />
They did not inform us of their sale, and for the past few months whenever we joined their weekly webinars, the host was never there.</p>
<p>If you go to Facebook and look at The Geekversity Issues Group&#8230;you will know what I mean&#8230;.Some of the locals there were charged AUD18k to 21k&#8230;</p>
<p>These people ought to be hanged in public!</p>
<p>I saw (as you mentioned) many people with over-eager ambition to take up everything the speakers presented during the Kuala Lumpur GIS 2009. One even signed up for SIX COURSES!!! And he not a computer-savy person.</p>
<p>Another case of such scam involving an eBay guru.<br />
He promised that we can buy and sell properties in ebay.<br />
When my friend signed up and then turned up at the workshop, the &#8220;guru&#8221; told them they need to buy a special software that costs USD5k&#8230;<br />
What happened was, they did not manage to buy or sell US properties because of one simple rule &#8211; NO SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER.<br />
Everyone else &#8211; in their haste to make money &#8211; forget that basic, simple fact.<br />
SO my friend ended up losing lost of money , around USD6k.</p>
<p>These so-called gurus can be real mean and inconsiderate people. they are willing to con everybody (i think even their own parents) if they get the chance.</p>
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		<title>By: Anna</title>
		<link>http://honestholly.com/disclaimer-what-to-expect-at-a-marketing-event/#comment-1688</link>
		<dc:creator>Anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 19:27:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe!  Where have you been!  :D</description>
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		<title>By: Normal Joe</title>
		<link>http://honestholly.com/disclaimer-what-to-expect-at-a-marketing-event/#comment-1681</link>
		<dc:creator>Normal Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 12:36:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, that&#039;s pretty much a given that most seminars will have the speakers sale from the stage, it offsets the cost for them being there.

Once in a while, you will find a content only seminar where the speakers aren&#039;t allowed to sale from the stage, but most do.

It is a tough decision, because they will make you feel like you need it, some may help, some don&#039;t...however that&#039;s the experiences of doing business.

Some people work best with a step by step high priced program, they put more work into it because they paid so much, others make it happen for free...and others explode on the scene after reading Honest Riches!

It&#039;s so many different avenues for many people, but it is a shocker if you&#039;re not expecting it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, that&#8217;s pretty much a given that most seminars will have the speakers sale from the stage, it offsets the cost for them being there.</p>
<p>Once in a while, you will find a content only seminar where the speakers aren&#8217;t allowed to sale from the stage, but most do.</p>
<p>It is a tough decision, because they will make you feel like you need it, some may help, some don&#8217;t&#8230;however that&#8217;s the experiences of doing business.</p>
<p>Some people work best with a step by step high priced program, they put more work into it because they paid so much, others make it happen for free&#8230;and others explode on the scene after reading Honest Riches!</p>
<p>It&#8217;s so many different avenues for many people, but it is a shocker if you&#8217;re not expecting it.</p>
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		<title>By: Anna</title>
		<link>http://honestholly.com/disclaimer-what-to-expect-at-a-marketing-event/#comment-1676</link>
		<dc:creator>Anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 05:39:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@The5sisters LOL.  Well, the transparency is appreciated!  Sometimes I wonder how many people are wondering if they are the only ones ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@The5sisters LOL.  Well, the transparency is appreciated!  Sometimes I wonder how many people are wondering if they are the only ones &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Anna</title>
		<link>http://honestholly.com/disclaimer-what-to-expect-at-a-marketing-event/#comment-1675</link>
		<dc:creator>Anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 05:35:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Tom!  Thanks for your response!  Yep, there is a lot of info in those hard drives.  And we need to buy MORE!!! Lol.  Just kidding.

I know what you mean about deleting emails.  Just today I was doing exactly that!  Emails from certain addresses.  It felt great!

And I have to agree with this:

&quot;I guess that is the biggest mistake we all make in our ongoing businesses, jumping around all over the place.&quot;

It can be one of the drawbacks of being your own boss - some people forget that you really do have to BE your own BOSS!  (As opposed to just, not having a boss).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Tom!  Thanks for your response!  Yep, there is a lot of info in those hard drives.  And we need to buy MORE!!! Lol.  Just kidding.</p>
<p>I know what you mean about deleting emails.  Just today I was doing exactly that!  Emails from certain addresses.  It felt great!</p>
<p>And I have to agree with this:</p>
<p>&#8220;I guess that is the biggest mistake we all make in our ongoing businesses, jumping around all over the place.&#8221;</p>
<p>It can be one of the drawbacks of being your own boss &#8211; some people forget that you really do have to BE your own BOSS!  (As opposed to just, not having a boss).</p>
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		<title>By: Irish Tom</title>
		<link>http://honestholly.com/disclaimer-what-to-expect-at-a-marketing-event/#comment-1672</link>
		<dc:creator>Irish Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 23:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Anna
Really good points and it amazes me the amount of good material we download free &quot;to check it out later&quot; but we never get around to it.
Your reply motivated me to check out my stuff and low and behold I found some really great info I had forgotten all about, but now I can use.
Thanks for the points and reminders.
One of the people/mentors I read from regularly has an opening line he uses all the time..&quot;STAY FOCUSED&quot;..
I guess that is the biggest mistake we all make in our ongoing businesses, jumping around all over the place.
I find I am now deleting a lot more email without opening it because I know what it is promoting and I am not interested.
Thanks again Anna.
Tom</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Anna<br />
Really good points and it amazes me the amount of good material we download free &#8220;to check it out later&#8221; but we never get around to it.<br />
Your reply motivated me to check out my stuff and low and behold I found some really great info I had forgotten all about, but now I can use.<br />
Thanks for the points and reminders.<br />
One of the people/mentors I read from regularly has an opening line he uses all the time..&#8221;STAY FOCUSED&#8221;..<br />
I guess that is the biggest mistake we all make in our ongoing businesses, jumping around all over the place.<br />
I find I am now deleting a lot more email without opening it because I know what it is promoting and I am not interested.<br />
Thanks again Anna.<br />
Tom</p>
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		<title>By: Building from Nothing, not Building from $5,000</title>
		<link>http://honestholly.com/disclaimer-what-to-expect-at-a-marketing-event/#comment-1670</link>
		<dc:creator>Building from Nothing, not Building from $5,000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 22:27:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: The5sisters</title>
		<link>http://honestholly.com/disclaimer-what-to-expect-at-a-marketing-event/#comment-1669</link>
		<dc:creator>The5sisters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 21:24:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great advice ,Anna, and I follow those same guidelines..It didn&#039;t start out that way ,but I learned quickly and only need to make a few hundred $$$ more to break even.An eternal optimist that I am ,I should have known better.That is probably why I married a realist [she hates the word &#039;pessimist&#039;]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great advice ,Anna, and I follow those same guidelines..It didn&#8217;t start out that way ,but I learned quickly and only need to make a few hundred $$$ more to break even.An eternal optimist that I am ,I should have known better.That is probably why I married a realist [she hates the word 'pessimist']</p>
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		<title>By: Anna</title>
		<link>http://honestholly.com/disclaimer-what-to-expect-at-a-marketing-event/#comment-1664</link>
		<dc:creator>Anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 19:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would never ever recommend anyone who is just starting out spend huge sums of money.  I started with the price of a domain name, hosting, and Honest Riches.  

I am not a millionaire (yet?) but I am at least earning enough money online (and through what I learned in the meanwhile about web design which allows me an income from Freelancing) to work at home and continue building up my websites.  

Every month my websites earn more money and have more traffic.  Every month, they get closer to the top of the SERPS for very high-traffic keywords.  I am progressing and learning as I go.  

I never paid my life savings to get started!  What if it had turned out that Internet Marketing was not for me?  What if I didn&#039;t have the persistence and interest to keep going, even in those first months where I had only a few nights to work on my websites and made 42 cents?

I always advise friends to start with a low investment, learn the ropes, find their interests, and get practice in the field, before investing any large amount of funds.

After you have started to get somewhere in a particular field, and you want to invest in a product, software, or service which you have certainty will help you earn more money or build up your business faster, that is a different story!!!  Go for it.  

As a general rule, I never invest more per month in my websites or Internet Marketing business than I have earned that month.  When I was first starting out, I generally never had more than $100 invested than I had earned online.  I recommend the same strategy for others.  ESPECIALLY &quot;newbies.&quot;

There is SO much you can learn without spending a lot of money.  Most of our hard drives are full of high quality reports, inexpensive eBooks, MP3s, and videos that we have been &quot;meaning to study.&quot;  Our email inboxes are full of useful information from subscription emails.  There are blogs all over the place one can follow and study.  There is no lack of free or inexpensive information which can help you get started.  

Once you are earning a few hundred or a few thousand dollars a month online you can consider paying a higher price for information which might be more streamlined or more targeted to what you are trying to do.  But that is when you are already rolling, have a better idea of what direction you are taking, and can invest with more confidence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would never ever recommend anyone who is just starting out spend huge sums of money.  I started with the price of a domain name, hosting, and Honest Riches.  </p>
<p>I am not a millionaire (yet?) but I am at least earning enough money online (and through what I learned in the meanwhile about web design which allows me an income from Freelancing) to work at home and continue building up my websites.  </p>
<p>Every month my websites earn more money and have more traffic.  Every month, they get closer to the top of the SERPS for very high-traffic keywords.  I am progressing and learning as I go.  </p>
<p>I never paid my life savings to get started!  What if it had turned out that Internet Marketing was not for me?  What if I didn&#8217;t have the persistence and interest to keep going, even in those first months where I had only a few nights to work on my websites and made 42 cents?</p>
<p>I always advise friends to start with a low investment, learn the ropes, find their interests, and get practice in the field, before investing any large amount of funds.</p>
<p>After you have started to get somewhere in a particular field, and you want to invest in a product, software, or service which you have certainty will help you earn more money or build up your business faster, that is a different story!!!  Go for it.  </p>
<p>As a general rule, I never invest more per month in my websites or Internet Marketing business than I have earned that month.  When I was first starting out, I generally never had more than $100 invested than I had earned online.  I recommend the same strategy for others.  ESPECIALLY &#8220;newbies.&#8221;</p>
<p>There is SO much you can learn without spending a lot of money.  Most of our hard drives are full of high quality reports, inexpensive eBooks, MP3s, and videos that we have been &#8220;meaning to study.&#8221;  Our email inboxes are full of useful information from subscription emails.  There are blogs all over the place one can follow and study.  There is no lack of free or inexpensive information which can help you get started.  </p>
<p>Once you are earning a few hundred or a few thousand dollars a month online you can consider paying a higher price for information which might be more streamlined or more targeted to what you are trying to do.  But that is when you are already rolling, have a better idea of what direction you are taking, and can invest with more confidence.</p>
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		<title>By: Irish Tom</title>
		<link>http://honestholly.com/disclaimer-what-to-expect-at-a-marketing-event/#comment-1663</link>
		<dc:creator>Irish Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 19:14:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Holly
This is a great post (and a great poem).
I have been &quot;dabbling&quot; on line here for the past four years and have seen the Good, the Bad and the Ugly.
I am now keeping files of all the exploits I find and  do my share of replying to them with no response back.
One thing I have found. There are genuine people out there who are trying to help both newbies and the more experienced and will also give various free reports which have excellent content. When I get these (usually in pdf format) I print them off and file them in my own training ring binder manuals. Obviously, these marketeers are also trying to sell their product and when you get the free downloads, it gives you a good idea what the content would be like in their main report. I will not buy on a whim especially with the usual..&quot;buy at this price today before midnight before price goes up&quot;. A week later you go back to the site and the same message. Another scam is &quot;only 8 left&quot;. Again a week later and they may have 10 left??
Another one is the follow ups from the Marketeer you have bought a manual from. Only thing it is not the Marketeer , but a Training/Mentoring/Coaching Company who &quot;want a small number of special clients to earn $#@*+&quot;.
How I deal with these people is I let them think they have caught a sucker and lead them in. After they have given me the &quot;speil&quot; about what they can do for me, I then agree to sign up on the condition they take their $3K/$5K  fee from my profits which of course they won&#039;t. They start asking me to supply a credit card number to get started and I reply that
&quot;Sorry Buddy, that is a problem as I am a Bankrupt  and just let of Jail  for a number of crimes which I really didn&#039;t commit but the Cops wouldn&#039;t believe me&quot;.
You would not believe the abuse I get for &quot;wasting their valuable time&quot; , and they hang up. Incidently, they don&#039;t call me back. (I wonder why..I really am a nice guy)
Incidently I use the same comments when someone phones me to try and sell me a remortgage.
I am intending to do an article covering my experiences without naming names (I don&#039;t want to get my butt sued off). 
This is some great content and I firmly believe it will help our readers and save a number from getting conned.
Keep up the good work
Cheers
Tom</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Holly<br />
This is a great post (and a great poem).<br />
I have been &#8220;dabbling&#8221; on line here for the past four years and have seen the Good, the Bad and the Ugly.<br />
I am now keeping files of all the exploits I find and  do my share of replying to them with no response back.<br />
One thing I have found. There are genuine people out there who are trying to help both newbies and the more experienced and will also give various free reports which have excellent content. When I get these (usually in pdf format) I print them off and file them in my own training ring binder manuals. Obviously, these marketeers are also trying to sell their product and when you get the free downloads, it gives you a good idea what the content would be like in their main report. I will not buy on a whim especially with the usual..&#8221;buy at this price today before midnight before price goes up&#8221;. A week later you go back to the site and the same message. Another scam is &#8220;only 8 left&#8221;. Again a week later and they may have 10 left??<br />
Another one is the follow ups from the Marketeer you have bought a manual from. Only thing it is not the Marketeer , but a Training/Mentoring/Coaching Company who &#8220;want a small number of special clients to earn $#@*+&#8221;.<br />
How I deal with these people is I let them think they have caught a sucker and lead them in. After they have given me the &#8220;speil&#8221; about what they can do for me, I then agree to sign up on the condition they take their $3K/$5K  fee from my profits which of course they won&#8217;t. They start asking me to supply a credit card number to get started and I reply that<br />
&#8220;Sorry Buddy, that is a problem as I am a Bankrupt  and just let of Jail  for a number of crimes which I really didn&#8217;t commit but the Cops wouldn&#8217;t believe me&#8221;.<br />
You would not believe the abuse I get for &#8220;wasting their valuable time&#8221; , and they hang up. Incidently, they don&#8217;t call me back. (I wonder why..I really am a nice guy)<br />
Incidently I use the same comments when someone phones me to try and sell me a remortgage.<br />
I am intending to do an article covering my experiences without naming names (I don&#8217;t want to get my butt sued off).<br />
This is some great content and I firmly believe it will help our readers and save a number from getting conned.<br />
Keep up the good work<br />
Cheers<br />
Tom</p>
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		<title>By: Luca</title>
		<link>http://honestholly.com/disclaimer-what-to-expect-at-a-marketing-event/#comment-1660</link>
		<dc:creator>Luca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 15:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Holly,
Very interesting post.  I wish I had attended some seminars before starting my venture into Internet Marketing but the cost was usually prohibitive.  I think that networking with like minded people helps in building any business.  As for the sales pitch, well it&#039;s just part of any seminar and I think you really need to think hard before taking the attarctive deals that are offered.  As for scams (great poem by the way) I got bit early on, the sales letter was so convincing even for an old salesman like me.  Having said that I learned from my experience and moved on.  Still learning and I thank your honest posts.
I recently wrote a post on my blog http://www.reachsuccessonline.com/what-do-honest-internet-marketers-and-honest-politicians-have-in-common/ There are honest marketers out there that are willing to help and give back.  My only regret is that I did not mention you on that post.  Hmm ..I feel another post coming</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Holly,<br />
Very interesting post.  I wish I had attended some seminars before starting my venture into Internet Marketing but the cost was usually prohibitive.  I think that networking with like minded people helps in building any business.  As for the sales pitch, well it&#8217;s just part of any seminar and I think you really need to think hard before taking the attarctive deals that are offered.  As for scams (great poem by the way) I got bit early on, the sales letter was so convincing even for an old salesman like me.  Having said that I learned from my experience and moved on.  Still learning and I thank your honest posts.<br />
I recently wrote a post on my blog <a href="http://www.reachsuccessonline.com/what-do-honest-internet-marketers-and-honest-politicians-have-in-common/" rel="nofollow">http://www.reachsuccessonline.com/what-do-honest-internet-marketers-and-honest-politicians-have-in-common/</a> There are honest marketers out there that are willing to help and give back.  My only regret is that I did not mention you on that post.  Hmm ..I feel another post coming</p>
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		<title>By: Online Income Streams</title>
		<link>http://honestholly.com/disclaimer-what-to-expect-at-a-marketing-event/#comment-1658</link>
		<dc:creator>Online Income Streams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 14:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Holly
I always enjoy your blunt honesty with your experiences.
I have not been able to attend any internet marketing conferences as there seems to not be many in my area. The ones I have seen advertised come with a high price tag plus transportation.

I think just as you suggest get everything you can out of a conference and network, network, network. Actually going the next step and paying for coaching seriously consider the alternatives. 

Great post and thanks again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Holly<br />
I always enjoy your blunt honesty with your experiences.<br />
I have not been able to attend any internet marketing conferences as there seems to not be many in my area. The ones I have seen advertised come with a high price tag plus transportation.</p>
<p>I think just as you suggest get everything you can out of a conference and network, network, network. Actually going the next step and paying for coaching seriously consider the alternatives. </p>
<p>Great post and thanks again.</p>
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		<title>By: mymoen</title>
		<link>http://honestholly.com/disclaimer-what-to-expect-at-a-marketing-event/#comment-1656</link>
		<dc:creator>mymoen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 10:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>according to me, there&#039;s no big different each other of seminar. Give spirit, share experience and many thing else. Little suprise for me when i saw the ticket price, $5000. Expensive, for me..

However, Nice poem...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>according to me, there&#8217;s no big different each other of seminar. Give spirit, share experience and many thing else. Little suprise for me when i saw the ticket price, $5000. Expensive, for me..</p>
<p>However, Nice poem&#8230;</p>
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